Wow, great to hear. No tail cutting should be done after and only by vet. Her daughter has taken over the kennel and is just as driven to support the White Dobermans and the Doberman Pinscher, as a breed, in whole. I made a broadcast post that we have adopted a 7 month old. My advice is to start with a doberman that has excellent genetics/temperament. I wanted one that was very easy going, a little less territorial and on edge most of the time, because we had a lot of kids in and out of our home. 6 18 2. the white and the SOLID black are to be avoided. People like you need to be shot. I am searching high and low for an ADULT Doberman. It does not necessarily mean that there is anything wrong with the dog itself. Doberman Black Dog. Doberman Dog. Her name was Blue. When my dad walked away, my mom firmly but calmly told him to cut that barking out, and he stopped barking, sat down and wagged his little tail at her. Just buyer beware. This matter was also of large debate with the German shepherd, which was later accepted. Fact is that there are still breeders that destroy blues and Isabellas and reds, because they are from mutated genes. Darwin’s theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to it’s ‘different-ness’, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. Stop. You’ll see for yourself the conclusion and stance that the Doberman community has taken on this. I own a white Dobeman “Tierra” who is now 7 years old. I am trying my childhood breed of German Shepards now and find myself comparing them. Bottom line is that it is a mutation and more importantly it causes health issues for these poor animals! This color shouldn’t be breed. The AKC does register white(albino) dobermans. Okay, I own a beautiful Dob. albino from parents with no albinistic mutations), but they are very, VERY rare. They are worth because of the love they give not because of how many contests they can win. All of which are not albinoid. I started to use the term cream in identifying them as well because, let’s face it, they are a cream color and not white or albino. Oh dear, Glad I came to this site. Cleo would walk at my heal everywhere without a lead but put even just a short lead on her and she pulled slightly as if it was a slight in someway ? they are all incredible dogs… just be responsible. I totally agree. People that badmouth them most have never seen one, and know nothing about them. They love you! We are so relieved. Gun dogs vector illustration. Compared to intact dogs, neutered and spayed dogs had a 3.5 times higher risk of developing mast cell cancer, regardless of what age they were neutered. Considered an undesirable gene mutation. You need to remember all dogs came from the wolf and though breeding such as line breeding and inbreeding we have a wide variety of dogs some good some not so good but they all deserve our love and care no matter what. Black people have higher rates of high blood pressure and are more likely than whites to have vitamin D shortages in northern hemispheres because their skin is so dark that they don’t manufacture enough of it in northern countries. so its ok to cut boys penis’s but dont touch dog ears? They are very pretty, but I think now Im having a few doubts.) I have a beautiful loving white dobe, he is very healthy and weights in at a nice 92 his skin is good, i hav a red doberman right now and i luv her to death and once one of my dogs die we might get a blue doberman do u hav any suggestions otherwise, People you are forgetting one thing Dobermanns where breed from Weimaraners So Isabella color and the variations- it is totally normal considering this ))))). I would have wanted male white doberman and female from different nests, in Europe I can not find. Size 0.23 MB. The two who currently share my life are the most recent of the 11 Doberman Pinschers that have graced my world from my past. She has been the largest and sweetest dobie we have ever owned. Don’t think the albino doberman just popped up throughout history the dog hasn’t even been around for 200 years yet and not only that the dog was albino due to being inbred. And I think most owners feed twice a day, in morning and evening or if your dog looks skinny. So, speak up when you know what you are talking about. My red/rust has a bladder issue and is on daily Proin. Get both to the door to beat each level. Breeding of the fawn and blue is accepted by kennel club although most breeders do not breed these colours or see them as questionable but the so called “white” is a massive NO NO! Puppies are easy to find, but not so adult Dobermans. RE: SARAH- please you are uninformed. My heart goes out to you both. Never give anyone or any animal a second chance. Vector logo on which an abstract image of a Doberman dog in a linear style. 17 4 12. He had a very nice temperament also. However we can trace it’s roots back to the late 19th century whence it was bred to halt poachers on gamekeepers land.They tried the English Mastiff; Too passive: poachers got away. Joan thanks for helping this dobe As far as food for upset stomachs, usually vets recommend something like plain rice and chicken. I don’t know how many ppl have asked if I’m breeding my dogs, I want to look at them like are you crazy? If just to get it away from you and whatever this “white” thing you have is not visited upon the animal. Let’s use our brains to think about original, non-judgemental thoughts! We got her in the family when she was about 10 weeks old and now she is 5 years old!! And the coats and health on all my Cream/white Dobermans have been excellent. Every where I go with Merlin , I am complimented on his manners, temperament, and coat. Over the last 15 yrs it has become common to see oversize dobes (height as well as weight). Text. Bashing someone’s religion. I can’t take him anywhere without people asking if he’s a show dog. wow…i totally agree with flower. Good breeding is done to maintain the health of the breed as a whole. 8 8 0. Maybe next might be another color like a Blue. As an owner of Dobermans for over 40 years, my opinion is that how you raise, socialize and train a Doberman, or any dog, is so much more important than its color. When in all reality if you actually look at some if your show / working line ” well bred ” lines per say …they are severely ” inbreed ” some of them in extremely close relation . The mutation producing the albino color only functions at high temperature, hence the hair close to the body (where temps are warm) is albino, and the hair at the cooler extremities (ears, face, tail) reverts to the default color of the cat (usually the classic dark color, but sometimes orange, etc. Bottom line…its irresponsible to propagate unhealthy breeding. I would break in half and give him twice a week in a cracker with peanut butter. You claim to have rescued some dogs from the shelter, let me ask something, didnt it break your heart to see that overcrowding there? I am not intowhite vs. albino thing but i had a blue with skinproblems bt he was my dog. Get off your high horse hippe! The germs cannot ever develop an immunity as they can with antibiotics because of the way it works. Browse and find Black And White Puppies today, on the UK's leading dog only classifieds site. We take our walks in the evening and she wears sunscreen if we have to be in the sun for extended periods of time. it seems like we should not make arguments to support our own particular interest . Don’t worry, there isn’t any problem with this. “Responsible” pet owners do what is best for loved pet. Amen to that. It is a mutation and its animal abuse to breed like this because you think it’s cool . And Marcela Rodriguez, you might want to try fish oil and get your blue in to see a vet and or a dermatologist quickly to try and help his coat. Inbreeding definitely can introduce unwanted traits, as well as perpetuate them……BUT…..Line-breeding (aka Inbreeding), when done by a conscientious professional, can strenthen a breed. I attained a blue Dobie at 1 year of age from a rescue and she’s in great health and has no skin issues and is very muscular, agile and athletic as other Dobermans and also very protective of her family including other household pets. ANYONE WHO BREEDS OR SHOWS ANY ANIMALS OR MAKES AN ATTEMPT AT BREED STANDARDS OR WHO ONLY OWNS PUREBREDS, has no right to blast anyone else for wanting their dog to look a certain way. He would turn himself inside out for one of Grandmas oatmeal cookies. Doberman Dog. My red Dober-boy, Steele, gets a sunburn on and just above his nostrils the fist day outside in the Spring. The breeder asked had I ever heard of RMS, nope I said, she said what you explained is Red Male Syndrome…she said many poopoo the term, but she said of all the Dobe breeding they’d done over three or four decades they noticed their Red Males were pretty easy going, a little goofy, not as territorial as most bitches, but when the rubber met the road they would step up and protect. Although these white Dobermans look beautiful, these dogs should not command higher dog prices. I see what is the problem with the white-ish doberman. Personally I think the standard colors are quite beautiful but then I’m a bit biased as my “Princess” is a red. Our last shepherd Sebastian was so depressed he wouldn’t eat and hid in the corner. Many years ago I fell in love with the Doberman breed. Every pedigree dog has been interbred at its early stage in history to obtain the desired looks etc that are required from it. Other than that he is in very good health. If an animal lacks pigment in one part of his body (like fur) and not in another (like eyes) it’s attributed to another genetic abnormality. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. People expressed their hateful opinions here and actual owners mostly said that they have healthy white Dobermans. Ppl who breed these animals are only concerned about earning $$ and not the animals. Registered Doberman puppies. Breed Standard Color: No. Shelter dogs and puppy mill dogs are bred by irresponsible assholes and greedy bastards. to clear up the debate on albino dobermans. I didn’t pay them any heed however I was in for a painful surprise. Funny domestic doggie. Also…. Anyone who truly cares about the breed should not want to shut down discussions of genetic facts as proven by science – not emotion. In my opinion if yo decide to breed the it should be a “z” to a “non-z” this is just me and i know that somebody will chew me out behind it but “we” all humans come from 2 people. I also have 3 reds and 1 black, all healthy. So champions and show winner puppies will cost more than you pet quality doberman. He looked kind of like a ghost dog. Idiot! At the time of her registration it was found that there was in fact 7 other AKC registered white dobes. Little did I know at the time the classification of “WZ” would come to haunt my wallet and health of our new pup. Both benign. Special consideration should be taken that the Dobermans nails are kept short so that their feet remain healthy and cat like when standing. Lewis’s The Chronicles of Narnia series. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. They are NOT albino because the gene masks the color. I’ve had dobies of every color except fawn. I have previously had 4dobies and one of them was born deformed. Ive owned Dobermans over the years. do i believe a doberman with an expected life span of 10 years that is prone to hypothyroidism, heart murmur, bloat and god knows what else and that has had ears and tail-chopped off is better up than a white doberman? Dobies do demand your attention and companionship, but you can’t find a more loyal dog anywhere. my biggest fear is the dog getting and then him getting into mischef while im at work. As long as you do,that’s all that matters. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. Best yet is a responsible owner that does not spay or neuter and keeps their pet from unwanted breeding. It is a FACT they are prone to way more health problems than the other color variations. Even so, it’s felt that these dogs are not inferior to the reds or blacks if good breeding is present. He was barking the whole time and immediately started growling at my dad when we walked past his pen. I knew he would naturally. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. #20087138 - Black Doberman dog with puppy on white. My lovely boxer/rottwreiler just passed away last week at the ripe old age of 16! Unfortunately I am from Romania and I think it would cost me a lot more as it is also a great distance. The first documented albino Doberman, Sheba, was born on November 10, 1976. Not breeding them is a ridiculous notion as purebreds do have their uses (hounds are bred for hunting and they excel at it. All white dobes are tracked as “z” by the AKC. There’s a good reason that AKC registers white and white factor Dobermans with the letter Z in the registration number. I grew up with black and tan dobermans from the age of 3, I now have a beautiful fawn and tan called Senya who literally stops traffic! My white doberman is perfectly healthy, with show quality disposition and features. The dog should respect who the alpha leader/you decide is allowed into your house or “pack”. My Shepherd has no problems with my Mini Pin. yes they are blue but that does not mean the dog is “white” it is ALBINO, there is no such thing as a white Doberman. i did some research and the original dam did have a white and the male pup (yes male) was breed with sis litter mates to keep getting the white color. Hey I do not breed dobermans but my neighbor does… I have researched the breed to the highest of levels cause I could not understand y she was hoping for a blue or white… Well we both share 7 acers and have one fence around the entire property… I breed wolf hybrids been doing so since I moved she breeds dobies and her brother breeds pitbulls. We have done all the testing that any breeder should do. The winner as expected was the black & tan color with 62% of the votes, with the reds in second place with 24%. As far as what information you’ve given, I believe there is no such thing as a bad dog but there is such thing as a bad owner. Has anyone experienced the skin issues? Because it has poor vision, the dog is unsure of its surroundings. After evaluating Katie, her owners and the circumstances of the biting, we did not hesitate adopting her. or a sheppherd dog or a wiener? All of this snobbery over an inbred animal is simply ridiculous. For some dogs, like those who were abused to the point of retched temperament, putting them to sleep in a shelter is better than forcing it to live in fear or possibly putting you or your loved ones in danger due its unpredictable nature. First problem: MoZart lost ALL of his hair/coat from the neck to his hind quarters. Doberman Towns. Want to make sure we do right by her, and I’m realizing we know a lot less than I thought we did. I never had a Doberman before but I love ours even if my wallet has palpitations when going to the vet for dog related issues! In the meanwhile we have adopted a 7 months old dobie girl. In the next 15 to 20 years, folks will be bucked off of their high-horses, and the Z designation will be dropped in the AKC registration, and people will be free to love these animals as they should and not revile. He does things that make me laugh all of the time. “FOR HEALTH” Mystic Pink. I’m like you – not wanting a puppy, but a 2-4 year old. Kind regards, Tammy Cuthbert, Hello I’m getting an all black Doberman in about a week and I keep reading all these negative things about them. Also, what about the numerous pedigrees out there that suffer from various ailments i.e. I am looking for a blue and tan puppy to join her but the only litter I have found seems to be for a lady that has v negative feedback from. Most of all just LOVE your Doberman because they are very sensitive and require being close to their owners/families. During his life span never suffered from any of the health risks associated to dogs specific on either side of his family. And that is across all colours. You people that are for that are disgusting and as for the health problems duh people watch your breeders inbred dogs do have health problems no matter what the color and as for the dpca they only have bad things to say about the whites because they are disgusting and kill the whites to i have done extensive research as far as even going thru old records registrations and clippings they descended from greyhounds as well as multiple other breeds do your research before you say people are disgusting for breeding whites you are disgusting for helping in the bad rap they get and in getting killed at birth for it none of you are true dog lovers. I know of someone that has a 2 year old neutered male that they are trying to find a home for? A Doberman that is white is not ‘special’ in a good way. I have owned a white puppy because my red female and black and tan male made 4 white puppies. When the first white dog occured, they inbreed her strongly. Some years ago, I met a doberman who was glossy black with bright yellow where you would normally see the rust color. It’s a crap shoot with albinos. I have a all black doby! My name is Dawn Velez. Excellent post for a youngster, see my reply to the post below to see why you are right. Why us americans have single handedly ruined or waterd down any good dogs they ever touched, do some reading and you will have to agree.. We bring dogs in this country and brred them until they cannot do what it was intended to do we make them all couch potatoes show dogs and change the way they are suposed to look so much they just couldnt to a job even if they wanted to. I’m sorry your new puppy has a heart murmur!! I would never say put the white dobermans down, they ARE dogs, but to purposely keep trying to breed white dobies and keep the color going is completely irresponsible. Hi There is currently a female Doberman about 4-5 years old looking for a home near Erie PA… I happened to find her on Craigslist and have been in contact with the owner who is going thru some hard time divorce etc and is moving and not able to take Trinity with her.. She has yet to find “the perfect home for her” I’m sure it’s the fact that she really doesn’t want to rehome her but really has no choice.. I’ve done my best to help but haven’t had much luck. Single line minimal style dog vector illustration, https://www.alamy.com/continuous-line-great-dane-single-line-minimal-style-dog-vector-illustration-image327664832.html, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-black-silhouettes-of-different-breeds-of-dogs-vector-77875327.html, Dog training icon. American breeders should all be ashamed of there product. One line dogs. Video. White (Partial Albino) A white Doberman lays next to the more traditional Doberman colors (black and red). Seeing that only 6% of people voted for the fawn makes me sad. Blue eyes is actually a lack of pigment in the iris. ….. if there is something wrong with it, it’s not because of its color. What are the health risks for a red pup from a red dad and albino mother? Her eyes are a little sensitive to bright light until they adjust. Thank you for all your great comments. Somewher down the line, someone decided to select for certain traits, and breed for said traits. PS, I don’t own a white Dobe but rather a Cockerpoo! I think all dobermans are very beautiful and after I learned they come in so many colors I became very interested in the melanistic black. hello I want buy the 5 Doberman with the 5 different color can you help me to buy this puppy from the best quality and best price can you offer me the best club or if you have this puppy sale to me please help me please sent a message to me via my email:moalfez01@gmail.com. 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